MAMIYA C330F – The Best Mamiya TLR
Description and function of the C330F camera, and it’s capabilities, flaws and quirks.
The MAMIYA C-330F was the final version of the “C” series cameras built by the MAMIYA camera corporation of JAPAN. The “F” model was the final model produced into 1980 by the MAMIYA corporation, it was a moderatly priced unit that came with an 80mm (normal) lens, that allow professionals, and advanced amateurs to create with a great deal of flexibility and capability in the medium format 6cmX6cm (2.25″x2.25″) square realm. The twin lens system on an extension bellows allowed for extreme closeups without the use of closeup lenses or extensions, and there are a number of accesories available for this camera as well. Here are it’s following abilities;
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- uses 120 and 200 film
- Self cocking with film advance on most of the lenses (not on the 180 or 250mm though)
- Double exposure capable
- Interchangeable focus screens
- right angle viewers (porrofinders) available
- parallax correction devices
There are a number of safety interlocks to prevent ruining film, or accidental exposures from occuring, until the user get’s used to them, they can be detrimental to action photography, as it’s easy to mis a shot from not setting things just right on the camera. The porro finders also suffered from low light when used, mostly with the mirror type, but some complaints with the prism were heard as well. The lenses are all excellent quality and design, the give supperior photos, usually only seen with German or Russian optics, comparable to the Japanese lenses used in the KONI OMEGA Rapid 100,200 and M series. The lenses available are as follows;
- 55mm (wide angle) F4.5
- 65mm (wide angle) F3.5
- 80mm (normal) F2.8
- 105mm (normal ,good portrait lens) F3.5
- 135mm (telephoto) F4.5
- 180mm (telephoto) F4.5
- 250mm (telephoto) F6.5
Some users including myself have found that the 180mm and 250mm old style lenses don’t quite fit the MAMIYA C330F camera, the lens connection is the same, but he aluminum and steel cases of the lenses are just a little too big, and jam the self cocking lever. I have a perfect old style 180mm that I carefully marked with a map pencil as to the area of the case that the cocking lever rubs across when operating, and then ground down the case in that area with a DREMEL rotary tool, and the used sanding cuffs the the dremel to smoooth it out, now the camera works with the lens, and allow the film to advance, with the 180 and 250mm you have to cock the lens manually anyway, so this isn’t a big issue.
Manual for C330F
http://www.butkus.org/chinon/mamiya/mamiya_c330f_prof/mamiya_c330f_prof.htm
Photos by Mamiya C330F:
A beautiful set about portrait:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/donlam/tags/c330f/page4/
Another set about landscape and stills:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/46665374@N06/sets/72157623230753752/with/4376981854/
Seagull 4A-105 Review
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A twin-lens reflex (TLR) camera offers you an entry price point into medium-format photography. Instead of the usual SLR design of cameras such as Hasselblad and Mamiya, a TLR has two lenses. The top one provides an image on a ground-glass viewing screen and the bottom is used to record the photograph directly onto film.
| The 4A-105 is the latest in a succession of models from the Chinese twin-lens reflex manufacturer Shanghai Seagull. Each model that has appeared has had slight modifications to improve the handling and this one includes the following:
Features at a glance Other features:
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The Seagull costs 189 including VAT and is available from importer Kauser in Hertfordshire. It looks very much like a Yashica 124G or old Rolleiflex and is designed to be used as a waist-level camera. A hood flips up on the top and allows you too look down onto a shielded screen to focus and compose your photograph. The hood is easy to return to its flat storage position. You just squeeze the sides and give a gentle push and it all collapses into place. Raising is just as easy – gripping the sides and lifting so it springs into place.
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When you look down into the hood you see a reversed image. This is one of the disadvantages of this type of camera and does, if it’s your first time using one, take time to grasp. If the subject moves to your left it will appear to move to the right in the viewfinder and your instincts won’t follow.
To use the camera you cradle it in the left hand and use your right to wind the film on and press the shutter release. The plunger is threaded so a cable-release can be attached. |
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The viewing screen has a ground glass surface to help make the image easier to focus. It goes slightly darker into the corners, but overall the image is bright thanks to the f/2.8 viewing lens. In the centre is a horizontal split line surrounded by a microprism style circle. These are used to provide accurate focusing. The split image is a familiar item on single-lens reflex cameras and splits the subject’s vertical lines in two when the subject is out of focus. As you move to the correct focusing distance the lines gradually become closer until they meet and correct focus is obtained. The microprism shimmers when the subject is out of focus and appears clear when it’s in focus. You can use each or a combination to help you gain perfect focus or, at least, that’s what you hope! (see comments later) |
| If you rely on peering down into the finder you won’t be able to focus accurately and to assist the Seagull has a pop up magnifier that you reach by pressing in a plate on the face of the hood. The magnifier is used with your eye pressed up to it and still allows you to view the whole image area, but concentrate on the inner focusing aids. A large knurled wheel on the left of the camera is used to focus and the lens mount moves backwards or forwards to adjust the lens’ distance from the film.
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I found the focusing hard to determine. Despite having both options, neither seemed to be very accurate and it took too long to be sure I was happy.
Also look at the bright white vertical line to the right of the magnifier (pic above). This is the hinge of the hood and it lets light in. Although this will do no harm to the film it did cause stray light to hit the focusing screen in bright weather and made it difficult to focus, especially when the sun was in front of me.
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If you push the plate on the top of the hood fully in it locks down at both sides and allows you to view directly through the hood when raised. This is called a sports finder and is designed for fast action pics where focusing is at a predetermined distance, so you can have everything set up and use the camera like a direct vision model. Crude but quick.
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The latches that lock it down are not secure enough and it occasionally popped back up when I caught the hood, by accident. The advantage here though is it does always flip back up when you want it to. On some cameras I’ve used you really have to tug at the hood to make it spring out of the way.
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When loading a film you release the back using a dial on the base of the camera. This rotates to release a spring mounted catch and the back hinges open. Two plungers spring out to allow the film spool and take up spool to be positioned and locked in place. When the film’s loaded you shut the back and rotate the dial to the C position which pulls the catch inwards to secure the back. The gap at the bottom seems wider than the one at the top and it looks as though it’s ill-fitting. No light got in so this is just a cosmetic thing. I’d prefer to see it flush with less movement, I was initially conscious that the lock might release and the back would spring open while I was using the camera, but it proved solid enough. |
Four raised metal feet ensure the camera balances firmly when placed on a table, but these got in the way of the tripod platform I used and didn’t allow an even fixture.
| When a film has been loaded you use a large advance lever to wind on. The camera locks at frame 1(indicated in a small circular window above the wind on lever) Safety features ensure the lever will not advance until the shutter is fired and picture taken. The shutter will not fire until the film is advanced. There is no shutter lock so I would suggest you only wind on when ready to take a photograph to avoid accidental shots. The 4A-107, with its four element lens, does have a shutter lock. The lever is quick to advance film and has a good action. |
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There is no exposure meter built in to this camera instead you need a handheld meter or a good knowledge of exposure settings.
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When you know what the exposure is, you set it on the dials at either side of the lens. The left hand side has shutter speeds, the right hand side has apertures. These slide to adjust. The shutter speed is click stopped and the aperture is smooth, allowing infinite adjustment between settings. Both are positioned so you can adjust with the thumb of each hand as you cradle the camera. I’ve already picked up on several crude points of this camera and the worst is the shutter speed marker that doesn’t align correctly with the settings. It’s about half way in between so if you forget which way this appears you have to slide it to the extreme to see which setting it actually refers to. The aperture slider is a little coarse and appears to grate as it’s moved. |
On the picture above you can see a small lever with a red dot just below and to the right of the word REFLEX. This is the mechanical self-timer that allows a variable delay of between 8 and 14 seconds depending on where you move it to. It’s all guess work so you’ll need to get a feel for how far you need to pull it. Practice without a film in the camera.
We used this for some interior shots to prevent camera vibration when it was mounted on a tripod. Three shots later and it broke! The film advance still worked but the shutter release didn’t open the shutter or activate the timer, resulting in the third roll of film being blank and the camera inoperable.
Below the self timer is a standard flash sync terminal which is used to connect any electronic flash with a coaxial cable. There’s also a more convenient hot shoe on the side although this was slightly loose on our model so I wouldn’t trust it with a larger gun. The beauty with a camera like this, with its leaf shutter, is flash can be used at any speed – shame the top speed is only 1/300sec, but it’s still as good as the best SLR cameras and proves perfect for fill in flash in most conditions.
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The focusing wheel provides smooth adjustment and is easy to control. On the side is a depth-of-field scale indicating distances in meters with all the apertures. The red mark shows where you’ve focused and the alternate black and white marks show the depth-of-field at the various apertures. This is a well designed scale and very easy to use. |
Test pictures
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A straightforward shot of flowers. The subject was about 1.3metres away and overcast lighting ensured there was no complex metering involved.
There’s good detail in the plants and the background is subtly out of focus thanks to the selected f/3.5 wide aperture. This was taken on Fujichrome RDP100. |
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The lens shows no signs of vignetting into the edges which is something you may find on older TLRs, but the photos are not razor sharp. When magnifying the railings in the centre of the frame it was noticeable that details was starting to fall. Overall it the trannie would enlarge to about 12in without problem, but so would an image shot on a good 35mm SLR, |
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I deliberately ensure the bottom of the upper window was included in the frame to see how the lens responded to flare. There’s a fair degree of ghosting. This shot also shows the lens doesn’t suffer from distortion. |
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| To check my constant annoyance of the focusing accuracy I deliberately set the lens to f/3.5 and chose a subject with a variable distance background. I used the magnifier to focus on the wooden sculptures. The camera was mounted on a sturdy tripod and the delayed action used to prevent any movement. I didn’t focus accurately. And that’s a big problem. There’s no point in having all the benefits of a larger format camera if you end up with out of focus pictures. The camera definitely needs a better focusing screen! |
| Verdict Throughout the test I have been fairly harsh on this camera, particularly in construction. For background info I have owned or us ed many medium-format cameras over the years. I admit I prefer the single-lens reflex type, but readies the TLR has a very useful place. One of the main benefits is the lack of a mirror clunking around causing vibration and noise. The shutter is almost silent on a TLR and there’s no vibration. The Seagull delivers in both these areas a great camera for candid photography and one that can be used in church for weddings without annoying the vicar. The other main benefit of a TLR is cost. Currently the Seagull is the only one you can buy new and I suspect that’s why it has a price of 189. When you could by the Yashicamat 124G, a better built camera with a built-in exposure meter, it sold for about 149. SLRs haven’t risen in price since then, so there’s no reason why this would have happened to TLRs either. If the Yashica was still available it would probably have cost no more than 160, in relative terms this makes the Seagull worth about 130 maximum. Overpriced but no alternative? Well yes, If you don’t mind buying a second-hand camera you can pick up a Yashicamat 124G for about 129 and in my view it’s a far better camera. You can also find Mamiya TLR cameras with interchangeable lenses for a similar price to the new Seagull and they have better build and much better close focus capability. You may even prefer an SLR and it’s possible to buy old Mamiya 645s or Bronica ETRs for not much more than the Seagull.
Having said all this, if you prefer the comfort of a new camera and don’t mind paying slightly over the odds, the Seagull will not disappoint in optical performance, providing you can get on with the focusing and can put up with the crude aspects of the build, oh and avoid that self timer! Test by Peter Bargh Update! Comment from supplier Volume determines price. The factories does not sell the numbers they used to. Competition is another factor. In the days of the Yashicamat there were several TLRs in the marketplace. Today, there is the Rollei and nothing else. The Seagull is not the tin box it used to be and Minolta’s input has improved the quality of components and build. It still has some way to go to match that of the German & Japanese but gradually it is getting there. Ali Kamruddin, Kauser International Also regarding price: Global Cameras sell the camera for 160 which makes it a better buy. |
Yashica Mat 124G: Women and Dreams
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The Yashica Mat shoots 6x6cm negatives, which has the pleasant side-effect of making the photographs look like album covers, viz:
“Wir fahren fahren fahren auf der Autobahn” indeed. Square images are hardcore, although in practice there’s no reason why you can’t crop them down to taste. You have plenty of negative to work with. Still, I find that after having composed the square image through the Mat’s square viewfinder, it looks better if I leave it square.
Square format was long a hallmark of Swedish medium format giant Hasselblad, although with a very few exceptions the company’s modern digital sensors have a 4×3 aspect ratio. Nowadays, for most people, square equals Instagram equals real photography.
Medium format is a mysterious world. “If you have to ask, you’re in the wrong department”, that kind of world. Historically there were several different medium format formats, although they all used 120 film, with different framing.
Why was it called 120? I always assumed it was because you could take twelve shots at 6×6, but in practice the number was just arbitrary; Kodak plucked numbers from thin air. Throughout the 20th Century the company also sold 110, 116, 616, 120, 126, 127, 135, 220, 620, and 828 film, and none of those numbers meant anything either. Nowadays Kodak still sells 120 and 135 – the standard 35mm format – but for how much longer, eh?
Hasselblad cameras shot 6x6cm negatives, and so did Rollei TLRs and indeed most TLRs in general. Bronica, Pentax, Contax, and Mamiya used a 6×4.5cm format, which was called645. This was the most popular medium format of all, striking a good balance between a large negative, economical use of film, and relatively compact bodies. Furthermore the 4:3 aspect ratio was much closer to a magazine page or an 8×10″ print than square format. I’m not sure why I keep saying was, because 645 survives to this day as the standard digital medium format format. Back in the 2000s Kodak made a square format sensor that went into the Kodak DCS Pro Back and the early Hasselblad CFV models, but if you walk of your local Phase One showroom with a digital back nowadays, it will be a 645 digital back.
It’s worth pointing out that Kodak’s square sensor wasn’t actually 6x6cm; it was 3.6×3.6cm and had a 1.5x cropping factor. As far as I know the only 6x6cm medium format digital camera was the Dicomed Big Shot, from way back in 1996, although it was a cumbersome beast designed for tethered studio shooting. As I write these words there’s one on eBay for £2,500, from Hong Kong, untested. You’d no doubt need a 1996 Apple Macintosh as well.
Still, some Pentaxes and Mamiyas shot 6x7cm negatives, and there were even 6×9 cameras, which squeezed eight large shots onto a roll of 120. 6×9 had a split personality. On the one hand there were tough professional 6×9 cameras such as the Polaroid 600 and the Fuji GW690 – the “Texas Leica”, so called because it resembled a Leica that had been pumped full of beef – and on the other hand, the format was common in low-end cameras such as the Agfa Clack, the idea being that the negative was so large that frugal holidaymakers could simply have contact prints made up, rather than paying for enlargements.
Moving into the realm of the esoteric, there were also 6×12 and 6×17 panoramic cameras, such as the Fuji GX617, which still fetches a fortune on eBay. In the right hands these can produce stunning images, and in the wrong hands they can produce boring dross, just like any camera. Also, look at this stupid-looking man. If the internet is to be believed – and I have no reason to doubt it – these cameras are only capable of taking photographs of (a) beaches at sunset (b) the Grand Canyon (c) leaves. Which gets boring after a while. Guys, you can stop now.
Still, have a look at this cropping guide:
That’s a full 6x6cm frame, shot with a Yashica Mat 124G. The yellow box represents the largest 8×10″ crop you can make from this negative, although there’s no reason why you have to include the full height of the frame.
The red box is the same relative size as a 35mm negative, 36x24mm. Put another way, you can crop down that much and still have 35mm quality. Incidentally, if you could somehow stick the Yashica Mat’s 80mm f/3.5 lens on a full-frame digital SLR – and assuming you left the camera in the same spot – that red box is what you would see. You’d have a slow 80mm short telephoto with, presumably, very consistent image quality across the frame, on account of the huge image circle.
With the exception of the cropping example, all the shots on this page were taken with Kodak Ektachrome, indeed they’re all from the same roll. With 6×6 medium format on standard 120 you get twelve shots, which seems ridiculous in a digital age; even at 21mp my 5D MkII can store hundreds of images on a 16gb memory card. A card that costs less than a five-pack of 120 film, that has no processing costs, and can be reused over and over again.
But, knowing that each image is costing more than a pound, and shooting on a tripod, I find that my strike rate has zoomed up. If the image doesn’t look good in the Mat’s preview screen, I don’t take the shot. And I’m not going to go the trouble of setting up the tripod and the camera just so I can unset it the fuck down again, so I’ve had to raise my game.
In theory I don’t need a Yashica Mat to raise my game. I could carry around a digital camera, and just hit myself on the face with a wet fish every time I take a bad picture. But in practice I’m not going to do that. Because I can’t be trusted. I know me.
The Mat, like most TLRs, can in theory be used handheld. Some people have no trouble with this. In practice I find that the reversed viewfinder and the odd controls confound me. Furthermore, I scout out the world from a height of just under six feet – which is where my eyes are – but the Mat is designed to shoot from waist-height.* So I use a tripod, like this chap here. As the man points out, the Mat has little feet, and so if you don’t have a tripod you can always rest it on a flat surface. It’s not too heavy for a Gorillapod, either. The camera is large, but mostly hollow, like the work of Béla Tarr, haha.
*PROTIP: Because you’re shooting square, if you want to compose and focus at eye level without using the useless sports finder, just hold the camera sideways! Turn your body so that the subject is ninety degrees to your left, bring the camera up to your face so that it’s ninety degrees from the horizontal – with the lenses pointing at the subject – and shoot. No, imagine that the camera is a glass of beer, and you’re really thirsty, and you want to photograph someone at the same time. So, just drink the beer and stand at right angles to the subject. Press the shutter. With the beer.
Look, it’s easier to watch than to describe. Unlike the work of Béla Tarr, haha.
As before, I used a Fuji S3 as a portable lightmeter / preview back. Here’s the S3’s rendition of a shot near the top of the article, processed to look a bit like Ektachrome:
Although I shot it at the same aperture – f/4 – and the same spot, the depth of field is much wider, because I’m using a smaller format. To get that field of view I shot at 30mm, rather than 80mm, although it’s complicated by the fact that I’ve cropped this square. The perspective is also slightly different, because I shot it from eye-level rather than waist-height. I have to assume that children or little people would use a TLR at about mid-thigh-height, and babies might as well just rest it on the ground.
There’s a whole industry of Photoshop plugins that apply different film looks to digital files, which will no doubt breed a future race of photographers who speak of the Ektachrome look and so forth, when in reality they’re waxing nostalgic for a simulation, a false memory. I’m reminded of this discussion here, in which a professional director of photography asks his peers how to recreate the Kodachrome look, before going on to describe something that doesn’t sound like Kodachrome at all, but an idea of what it might have been, based on the evocative name. An idea of a simulation designed to evoke a mood.
Source: http://women-and-dreams.blogspot.sg/2012/01/yashica-mat-124g-ii.html














ed many medium-format cameras over the years. I admit I prefer the single-lens reflex type, but readies the TLR has a very useful place. One of the main benefits is the lack of a mirror clunking around causing vibration and noise. The shutter is almost silent on a TLR and there’s no vibration. The Seagull delivers in both these areas a great camera for candid photography and one that can be used in church for weddings without annoying the vicar. The other main benefit of a TLR is cost. Currently the Seagull is the only one you can buy new and I suspect that’s why it has a price of 189. When you could by the Yashicamat 124G, a better built camera with a built-in exposure meter, it sold for about 149. SLRs haven’t risen in price since then, so there’s no reason why this would have happened to TLRs either. If the Yashica was still available it would probably have cost no more than 160, in relative terms this makes the Seagull worth about 130 maximum. Overpriced but no alternative? Well yes, If you don’t mind buying a second-hand camera you can pick up a Yashicamat 124G for about 129 and in my view it’s a far better camera. You can also find Mamiya TLR cameras with interchangeable lenses for a similar price to the new Seagull and they have better build and much better close focus capability. You may even prefer an SLR and it’s possible to buy old Mamiya 645s or Bronica ETRs for not much more than the Seagull.
