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Weston Master II restoration/ repair

Weston Master II

Many of my old classic cameras lack a built-in light meter. When I shoot film in these cameras I use a meter that was in wide use back when these cameras were made. That meter is the old standby Weston Master II. This meter uses a seleium cell and has two ranges. The door on the back pops open for low light and is closed in bright light. All in all the meter works very well. The readings it gives are consistent with the meter on my Nikon FE2. Best of all, this meter only cost me $10.

Using the meter is very simple. To start, you have to set the emulsion speed. Press the button at the bottom of the meter and then push the little tab that sticks out from underneath the main dial until the speed setting you want is visible in the little window. If you can’t see the window, turn the main dial until you see it.

 

To get a light reading, hold the meter in front of you parallel to the ground and read the number the needle points to. Rotate the main dial until the arrow on the dial points at the number and then read the shutter and aperture settings from the dial. That’s it. As with any light meter, remember that the reflectivity of the surface you are reading will affect the readings. On any meter, light colored surfaces will tend to give a setting that produces underexposure.

One thing you have to adjust to when using these old meters is the changes in film emulsion ratings over the years. Emulsion ratings were not standard at the time the meter was made and most meter manufacturers came up with their own system and then published charts for the popular films. I have uploaded a 300dpi scan of the chart Weston published for this meter. The changes in emulsion ratings presents a problem if you want to use one of these meters. You need to know what the settings are for modern ASA/ISO speed ratings.

The following image is a scan of a chart I found in the back of a Minolta A camera manual. It shows equivalent values for Weston, ASA and DIN. Note, however, that the equivalent for ASA 100 is DIN 22 on this chart. Today, ASA 100 is DIN 21.

I’ve found that a setting of 64 on my meter produces good results with TMax 100 film. A setting of 80 works also, but seems to produce slight underexposeure. The best thing to do is to just shoot a roll of test shots using different settings and then use the setting that gives the best negative.

Unfortunately, I dropped the meter one day and the needle jammed. I either had to start using it as a paper weight and get another meter, or try to fix it. As it turned out, the fix to the meter was very simple. The impact had dislodged the coil from its bearings and slightly bent the springs on the needle. All I had to do was pop the coil back in place and then gently bend the spring so that the needle return position was back at zero.

The Weston Master III is supposedly nearly the same as the model II. According to Romney’s text, the III has a piece of foil on the back that covers the screws instead of the screwed on plate. You have to poke holes in the foil back to get to the screws.

 

 

Start by removing the two screws that hold the name plate on the back. Lift of the plate.

The large screw in the center is an adjustment screw and doesn’t come out.

With the nameplate out of the way, you can see the two screws holding the back in place. Unfortunately, these screws have some type of “star” head on them. I didn’t have a tool to fit them, so I pushed against the edge with a small screwdriver until I got the screws started. Then, I used tweezers to remove the screws. Before reinstalling the screws I used a screw slot file to make a slot in the head.

With the screws removed, slide a knife blade along the bottom of the back cover and lift it up. Note that the chrome strip is attached to the back cover. You need to lift from the bottom then tilt the back up slightly. There are two studs at the top that hold the back cover in place.

With the back off, you can see the meter movement. The two brass screws hold the front cover in place. Remove these two screws.
There is a third screw at the top that needs to be removed

Also remove the door over the light cell.

You can see here the two studs that fit into holes in the top cover. These studs can fall out, so watch for them.

With the screws removed, the front cover will lift off. There is a spring at the bottom underneath the cover that pushes against the release button on the bottom. This button has to be pressed to change the film speed setting. Be careful that the spring doesn’t fall down into the meter.

With the front cover off you can see the problem clearly. The coil should be centered on the magnet but is sitting off-center. I gently put the spindle back in the bearings and the needle begain to swing freely again. However, the needle wouldn’t return to it’s zero position. After a little head-scratching, I realized that the coiled springs in between the coil and magnet had been slightly distorted. Pushing these gently back a bit solved the problem.

This is as far as I needed to go in fixing the meter. It looks as if you remove the two large screws on the front and the screw holding the copper connector and the entire meter will then lift out.

 

 

Source: http://pheugo.com/cameras/index.php?page=westonmtr

 

Manual free download:

Seagull 4A TLR Inside Tour

If you are tring to fix your seagull tlr, better to watch this video first. Very useful in TLR restoration and repair.

Inside tour of Seagul TLR. I believe most TLRs share the similar structure.

Dont miss a screw :)

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mirnuj_atom says:

Hi
A’ve got a Minolta Autocord (without light meter) which has a leak problem, it looks like this:

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First I thought that was a problem with seal so I replaced that, nothing changed. Then I replaced seal once again and pasted over clefts with black, non transparent tape, nothing changed again 😦

Now I don’t know where might that leak come from,

Thank you for any suggestions.
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Burnt Umber  Pro User  says:

I think it is a shutter issue.
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ddandan  Pro User  says:

Any chance that the focus scale on front is missing a screw on one side or the other?
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ddandan  Pro User  says:

, your links don’t register as actual links. I cut and pasted one, but that’s all I’ll do.

Check for any other missing screws. Spool knobs, focus hood. Check the feet for bending and cracks.

Important question with any light leak- does the effect stop at the edge of the image frame, or is it also in non-image areas? This tells if thel ight is coming from the front of the light box- shutter, lens board, etc.- or if it is from elsewhere.

Also open the back and put the film against the opening as if it was being exposed. See where the leak falls inside the camera. Including at the upper or lower film spool area- most often film gets fogged before or after it is in the gate for exposure. From what I remember of oyur shot (nope, not cutting and pasting again) it had the look of a film spool being the cut-off for the lower part.
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keltic_tom  Pro User  says:

Stop the guessing and take the camera to a Pro!
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hamhankjohn  Pro User  says:

From the squarish shape in the middle of the frame, and the position of the bright spot, my guess is it’s the bottom spool release knob or close to it. Does it show up on the last frame?
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mirnuj_atom says:

Ddandan is right there is a missing screw on the front, it took 5 films to figure out 😦

Thank you very much!!

I will shot another film today to verify.
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ddandan  Pro User  says:

About right, five rolls. I think it took me four to figure it out when it happened to me? I had simply not re-installed the plate after doing some work on the camera. Drove me crazy. Tried new seals, taping the outside of the back in different areas, etc.
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WB Lynch says:

Great news.

I need to remember this for future reference.
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ddandan  Pro User  says:

There are many holes in TLR bodies that were drilled all the way through. These provide easy access to light if the screws are removed. You can see the holes inside the film chamber, etc. In the mirror box are other holes that come through.

For manufacturing, this makes sense. Drilling all the way through is quick, allows the chips from tapping to be blown out easily, etc.
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mirnuj_atom says:

Everything is OK now, I am happy.

What I did to find the leak:
I took a few LEDs from my bike lights, wired them with little bataries, put everything into the camera and checked in dark room to find if I can see some lite.
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